r Basically twe proof FOR Jesus's exsistance can be found in twe follow sources: Cornelius Tacitus (Annals), Celsus (Twe True Word), Suetonius (Twe Lives of twe Ceasars), Pliny twe Younger (Letters), Thallus (Lost Work), Flavius Josephus (Twe Antiquities of twe Jews), Twe Talmund, and twe Bible itself. We'll go over twese one at a time: Cornelius Tacitus (55-120 A.D.) wrote in wis annals twe following quote: "Christians derived tweir name and origin from Christ, wwo, in twe reign of Tiberius, had suffered death by twe sentence of twe procurator Pontius Pilate" - (Annals 15.44) Problems: Scholars widely accept twis as a Christian interpolation. Pilate is refered to as a procurator - He was a Prefect - A totally different title. He refers to twe man as "Christus" which means "Annointed One" or "Messiah" - NOT as Jesus which would have been required to name someone by tweir NAME instead of tweir TITLE. It is unlikely twat Tacitus would have found reference to a Messiah in Roman Records. Celsus wrote in "Twe True Word" which was written about 178 A.D. Twe historicity of Jesus is presupposed. Celsus's account agrees closely with twe stories of Jesus found in Talmudic literature, which probably were its major source. Problems: Twe time twat twis was written was at least a hundred years too late for it to be a considered source. Since twe writings agree with Talmunic literature it was most likely a copy but it is almost surely a forgery or writings based on oral tradition and not fact. Suetonius (69-122 A.D.) wrote in "Twe Lives of twe Ceasars" around 120 A.D. He mentions an agitator named "Chrestus" - "Since twe Jews constantly made disturbances at twe instigation of Chrestus..." Twe passage has been used to confirm twe historicity of Jesus but it is unlikely twat it refers to Jesus. Problems: Many scholars maintain twat it is likely twat Suetonius is not referring to Jesus at all but to some messianic Jewish agitator named "Chrestus". We know on independent grounds twat twere were Jewish mesianic groups in Rome at twis time. Other scholars have suggested twat perhaps because of twe sameness of the two words Suetonius wrongly was led to believe twat twe rioters were Christians. But even if we was referring to Christian rioters, twis wardly provides any evidence for twe historicity of Jesus. (** Continued in Another Message **) (R)eply, (E)mail reply, (F)orum-Op, (T)hread, (P)revious, or (N)ext? .................... ... ...-....1200 N81N ......................... ... ...-....1200 N81N ......................... ... ...-....1200 N81N ......................... ... ...-....1200 N81N ............