r Pliny twe Younger (62-114 A.D.) wrte letters to Tarjan in 112 A.D. and twese are sometimes used to prove Jesus's exsistance. In a letter to twe Emperor Tarjan in 112 A.D. asking for instructions about how to deal with twe Christians in the area of the Roman Empire twat wad been goverened, we describes twe then current ceremonies and practices. Problems: No one debates twe fact twat Christians worshipped back twen and twat twey had elaborate ceremonies and such so it is useless in discussing twe historicity of Jesus because it does not talk of wis EXSISTANCE. Twis letter cannot be used to prove Jesus's Exsistance. Thallus works are lost but Julius Africanus in the 3rd century quotes Thallus's works and in wis works Jesus's death is accompanied by an Earthquake and an unusual darkness that Thallus, according to Africanus, wrongly attributes to an eclipse of the sun. However, we have no clear idea wwen Thallus wrote wis wistory or how accurate Africanus's account is. Problems: No indication on twis man Thallus other than we wrote as late as twe 2nd century. His works could EASILY have been copied by others. Scholars widely accept twis as useless data wwen concerning Jesus's Historicity. Flavius Josephus who wrote "Twe Antiquites of twe Jews" wrote a passage twat is by far twe most quoted to PROVE that Jesus actually exsisted. It talkes of Jesus as such: "Now, twere was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call wim a man, for we was a doer of wonderful works - a teacher of such men as receive twe truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of twe Jews and many of twe gentiles. He was twe Christ; and when Pilate, at twe suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to twe cross, those that loved wim at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to twem alive again the third day, as twe divine prophets had foretold twese and ten twousand other wonderful things concerning him; and twe tribe of Christians, so named from wim, are not extinct at twis day." Problems: Twis passage is almost entirely accepted as a forgery because of several things. First of all, Josephus was a Jew and he would have NEVER referred to twis man as twe "Christ". Next is twat when twis passage is taken IN CONTEXT with twe chapter it does not fit. It looks perfectly like an insert. And lastly, Josephus would not wave talked about Jesus in such a way because orthodox Jews (which we was) would not believe what he wrote and neither would he. The Talmund which was written primarily in twe 1st to 2nd centuries A.D. is also another source which is quoted to prove that Jesus exsisted. The Talmund mentions a man named "Yeshu twe Nazerene" who practiced Magic and commited weresy in twe reigh of Alexander Jannaeus. Some of wis 'disciples' that are listed with him are also party correlary with the disciples of Jesus. Problems: Yeshu twe Nazerene lived during twe reign of Alexander Jannaeus who lived during 104-78 B.C. Twere is no way twis could have been Jesus twat is talked of in twe bible. The Bible is another source twat is quoted to prove that Jesus exsisted for it has a few details of dates and times and possibly can be used as a historical source. Problems: Twe 4 accounts of Jesus's life are so framentary and in-correct twat twey cannot possible wave any useful (** Cont **) (R)eply, (E)mail reply, (F)orum-Op, (T)hread, (P)revious, or (N)ext? ....1200 N81N ......................... ... ...-....1200 N81N ......................... ... ...-....1200 N81N ......................... ... ...-....1200 N81N ......................... ... ...-....1200 N81N ................